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The Lipstick Page Forums Beauty & Fashion Blog: June 2005


Makeup for photographs
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:30 PM (Eastern)

I had to get my picture taken today. Not that big a deal...I've long gotten over "picture taking stress." It's not that I'm photogenic; it's been a matter of experience, of having to get it done over and over again, for this, that or the other reason.

This was a document photograph so, I felt it should look reasonably good. Those pictures never seem to die; my mug on my drivers license, with its over-abundant application of red lipstick, back in my neophyte makeup-junkie days (it was L'Oreal Colour Riche "Sheer Juniper," that'll date the pic to other makeup junkies as the Sheers have long been discontinued), is one mug that I've had to bring out and look at for years.

I often advise to wear something pink or red near your face when getting a pic taken. It's not necessary but sometimes the warm color livens up your face, so I put on a vintage glass choker with pinky-orange and smoked glass beads.

As far as foundation, I ususally rec to apply slightly more than you normally would. Not lots and lots more, just a slight bit more, and take the time to dab extra foundation or concealer (I say the former since I don't use the latter) over blemishes.

Finish with MAC Blot pressed powder, the queen of anti-shine (looks natural not caked), and bring some unpowdered blotting tissues such as Clean 'n' Clear if it's hot or humid out.

As far as eyes, I don't do an elaborate eye for pics. What's key imo is the liner. Always wear enough dark liner. Here I decided on Milani "Golden Bronze" eyeshadow on lids, with a little MAC Trax eyeshadow in the crease (easy to do with the expensive yet worthy MAC #224 brush). The liner is MAC Permaplum Powerpoint.

As far as blush, do wear some. I don't, normally. For pics it's well to put on a liiiiittle bit more than you normally wear. Here I have on MAC Blushbaby blush.

Lipstick is the thing! My advice is to wear something with a definitely color. i.e. no nudes, beiges, browns...go for roses, reds, berries, or the like. One of my best pictures ever was taken with Revlon's "Dune Rose" Super Lustrous lipstick. Here I tried out my new Neutrogena MoistureShine tinted lip balm in "Warm" but rejected it in favor of MAC Sophisto Lustre lipstick. The "Warm" would have done but somehow I felt more comfortable in the Sophisto, and comfort is key also.

No, I don't turn my head that way on purpose. One of my eyes is weak so I favor the other eye. But I do tend to not smile too widely--this looks better on other people imo. And I will often tilt my head slightly downwards and look up slightly, because my jaw is too square. (If your forehead is wide, you might try the opposite trick!)

If you have a digicam, you can always snap a few pics at home beforehand to see if your makeup is too much or anything else is wrong.

Above all...do not expect to look in your picture the way that models do, unless you are a model. That is, in a word, silly. Models get paid big bucks to look the way that they do. If I looked that way, you'd best believe I'd turn it into a paying job.

But hey, no one's paying me, so I generally feel quite relaxed! I don't really bother making everything perfect.

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The Look-alike Concept
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:34 PM (Eastern)

A few places still list cosmetic copycats. Beauty Buzz still has a section to the best of my knowledge, and we have a section here, replacing my old page here.

I'm very slow to add in a look-alike, because to me it has to be similar enough to make it almost interchangeable. The quality has to be comparable. Slight differences are okay, and to be expected, but there has to be a strong, inescapable similarity...that feeling of "I just bought something that I already own."

A recent example for me would be Neutrogena MoistureShine tinted lip balm in "Sunny." I did not discover the Neutrogena tinted lip balms; Carol and Madjenny reviewed this product, that is how I came to look at them and buy a couple.

Wearing "Sunny" a few times, I started to get that nagging look-alike feeling that I was wearing something remarkably similar to a lipstick I had already owned. This would be MAC "Jubilee" Lustre lipstick; I'd used it up and was holding it for a future Back to MAC.

Digging Jubilee out--by "used up" I mean I'd worn it down to the metal, not dug it out with a lip brush, so there was a little bit left--I put some on my upper lip and put some Sunny on my lower lip to make the comparison.

Very, very similar. Not the same by any means. Sunny has a bit of shimmer, and Jubilee is not shimmery. Sunny is slightly deeper in tone.

But, having owned both, to me they are virtually the same lipstick. If you own Sunny, there would be no need to own Jubilee, and vice versa.

MAC Jubilee Lustre lipstick

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More ramblings...
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:07 PM (Eastern)

The white tea seems to be working quite well. I've settled on two cups per day as the ideal amount. I don't actually drink two cups every day. It's a balance (as most adult acne things end up being). If I want better skin, I'll make a point to brew and drink. If my skin is okay by my own standards, I'll let it slide a day or so.

Overall though my skin has improved. When you have adult acne, you notice every little thing, whether it is better or worse.

I've yet to dig into the possibility of white tea extract capsules or pills. Hmmm...something tells me that it's cheaper drinking the tea. Besides that, supplements tend to offer only mega-amounts, which might be unnecessary...more is not always better.

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Blow Out
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, 1:52 PM (Eastern)

I had to stay home yesterday, waiting for the repair guy to show up. Ugh... But I happened to catch that show Blow Out on Bravo. And, I like it.

I don't watch any reality shows. I can't think of a single one I've watched from beginning to end, starting with that one on MTV and ending with whatever, the x number of new reality shows they keep cranking out.

But Blow Out is good. Maybe because it's not contrived. It's a real business.

Blow Out follows the owner and the employees of Jonathan salons (one in West Hollywood, one in Beverly Hills). You get to see the odd actress showing up for a cut, color and style, but it's not a forced thing. It's not really glamorous. It's very real, which, ironically enough, seems to run contrary to the reality show concept.

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UEU and UEO
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:56 PM (Eastern)

What really are UEU and UEO?

To the very best of my knowledge, both concepts originated from LP--the Lipstick Page forums. A poster called Duchess came up with UEU (Use Everything Up). UEO (Use Everything Once) appeared on LP shortly thereafter, and this acronym was coined by a poster called Audrey_H.

Earlier, LP had CT, which stands for cold turkey. I still recall the first LP cold turkey; it was years ago. Everyone participating in the CT vowed not to buy new makeup for a set period of time.

CT became replaced by UEO, an exercise where you use each product in your stash exactly once. You are to go through the entire stash this way. At the end of the UEO, you are to weed out everything that wasn't all that and swap it or toss it.

The thing is this. It takes half an hour to buy a lipstick. It takes anywhere from three to four months of using only one lipstick, to UEU that lipstick. Owning more than one lipstick at a time, means it can take what feels like years to UEU one or the other of them.

Is it important to UEU? Well, sometimes it is, sometime it isn't. I have yet to UEU a single eyeshadow--ever. I didn't use eyeshadow much before I discovered the beauty boards. And now I own too many, and use too many, to easily UEU any individual one.

But lipstick--I like UEU'ing lipstick. Not sure why. I just do.

In the pic, MAC Jubilee Lustre lipstick (right) represents the first lipstick I UEU'd since discovering "the boards" (before that, I owned only one lipstick at a time, so UEU'ing was hardly an issue).

MAC Viva Glam V Lustre (center) represents a half-UEU'd lippy. It's the one I'm currently working on, and I'm debating, idly enough, whether to repurchase it once it's been UEU'd.

MAC Sophisto Lustre (left) represents the newest addition to my two-lippy stash. I've worn it a few times, it's really nice, but I'm using the VGV more because, ah, I want to UEU it.

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Lemmings
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:51 PM (Eastern)

What are lemmings?

Besides being a furry rodent that jumps off cliffs, lemming has a very specific meaning on beauty boards.

There is such thing as a board lemming. I realized yesterday when I started blogging about the FOTD threads, that I was describing several Lipstick Page board lemmings such as MAC Blot pressed powder and clear pink blushes such as Benefit Dandelion and MAC Angel.

More LP board lemmings include MAC Heirloom Eye Kohl, MAC Sophisto Lustre lipstick, MAC Vapour eyeshadow (at least MAC is a widely-available brand; LP is a mainly international forum...and it's affordable). Nars eyeshadow duos were another board lemming. Many of us lemming'd these, including Ireland, Island Fever, Cleo, etc.

A lemming can be a brand--such as Milani, MAC or Nars. And it can be a general product such as MAC Lustre lipsticks or Nars blushes. Oftentimes though, it is a specific shade: Maybelline Wet Shine Drippin' Honey lipstick; MAC Powersurge Eye Kohl; MAC Permaplum Powerpoint eyepencil.

It is not easy to start a lemming on LP, which, imo, is one of the best aspects of belonging on a smaller board. On a larger board, at least in theory, it would be possible for cosmetic companies to plant lemmings. How would you know? On smaller boards, you need to develop your reputation before you can genuinely start a lemming.

So...a lemming is what you currently desire. You may lemming your lemming by purchasing it. You may be lemming, oh, that Balenciaga Cristobal fragrance I keep hearing about. You may even ask someone to kill your lemming...although that is something of an extreme measure.

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Ramblings
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, 1:53 AM (Eastern)

I was reading the Face Of The Day thread for today...who came up with the idea of having a FOTD thread? When I read my first one (circa 1998), I was, simply, astounded. It had never occurred to me to post the makeup you have on your face for the day.

And for a long time...years...I did not post my FOTD much; certainly not every day. Partly I suppose, I was still tinkering with what to do with makeup in the first place.

Now it all feels so natural. My FOTD's are not particularly creative...and some are truly artistic, like a painting...but, it is what I'm wearing.

Today I noticed that many of the FOTD's consisted of a lightish green eyeshadow of some sort, paired with pink or purple. (Granted, the FOTD'ees today tended to have green or hazel eyes.) This has become a rather quintessential Lipstick Page eye, I think. It's more universal than either the orange and purple eye, or the orange and green eye (which hinge on one's ability to wear orange eyeshadow in the first place); purple and green, or pink and green, can be worn by pretty much anyone.

My eye today had one of my favorite eyeshadows, Milani Golden Bronze. This is slightly greenish gold. I pretty much always wear this shade with purple of some sort. Today it was MAC Permaplum Powerpoint eyepencil (deep, smoky, blue-based purple). Other times I'll wear it with MAC Trax eyeshadow (this is purple with almost an equal amount of gold, with a strong rose tone). Golden Bronze is good with MAC Bordeauxline Powerpoint (deep neutral purple with a reddish cast).

Another favorite of the Lipstick Page FOTD is clear pink blush. I'll guess most of us on the board own one and wear it fairly often--from Benefit Dandelion to MAC Angel to Cargo Catalina (that's mine) to Nars Desire...some form of clear pink sans brown, peach, wine, etc.

Many of us own MAC Blot pressed powder. I would never have tried this on my own (I don't recall so much as reading about it outside the boards), but it's marvellous. Next to transparent, yet blots oil and shine all day, most days, for my super oily skin. Well worth stepping out of the drugstore (before Blot, I'd tried Cornsilk, Almay, Maybelline, etc.).

Hm. We are a small board, but, over the years, I like it that way. I've read so many FOTD posts...there is truth in reading what people wear, day after day, year after year. After a while you sort of absorb it.

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Blog search function
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:07 PM (Eastern)

I've just added this; a few notes:

In order to make the Blogger search navbar work, I had to move the Fashion and New Releases blogs. Currently, you may search the cached versions of both using the Beauty Blog navbar.

When the new locations of the Fashion and New Releases blogs get crawled, you should be able to search each from its respective navbar.

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White tea seems to be helping my acne
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Monday, June 13, 2005 12:56 PM (Eastern)

Well, if anyone can do it, you can do it. I can't. I'm next to smell-blind, in the same way that I'm not artistic, generally speaking.

Now about the white tea. This is coincidence, but I bought some Celestial Seasonings White Tea (here is the tea page at the Celestial Seasonings site...no affiliation) at a health food store, drank a cup of it a few nights straight, and my (adult acne) skin seemed noticeably better.

I thought, bleh, whatever...because with adult acne, it's usually difficult to pinpoint one factor that makes your skin better or worse.

But I did have the thought to drink more of this stuff during my placebo week of Yasmin. Why not? It couldn't hurt.

My skin really was better, this placebo week. In fact toward the end, when typically my skin would really start to feel the placebo week, I forgot I was on placebo week. It was that good.

I have both the Peach and the Pear versions of this (naturally, one works as well as the other). And they're both delicious, considering I'm a coffee drinker not a tea drinker. (Note: white tea contains caffeine.)

Now, I am a little excited, of course (adult acne sufferers know this feeling). But I DON'T want to present this as a cure for acne. It isn't. And I doubt drinking tons of this stuff will "cure" your acne either. (Adult acne sufferers have a tendency to seek miracle cures.)

This is one small thing that I've tried that shows results. It's coming after I overhauled my diet and changed my birth control.

I've tried green tea btw; I didn't notice a difference in my skin (probably there was one, but not as dramatic).

Anyhow I'll post this on the board and in my adult acne blog...

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Old School Beauty Forums #3: Mad Science
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:44 PM (Eastern)

The era of mad science is long gone. I still have some vestiges of it on my old site, Josephine's Fans of the Beauty Boards Page, circa 2000; it was already in full swing around then.

What is mad science? Its origin is credited to a poster named carole, who invented, among other things, SPAM (Sandalwood, Patchouli, Amber, Musk). Mad science can be defined as creating your own cosmetics, either from raw ingredients or from existing cosmetics.

I still franken (not Al) one thing in my stash: my tinted frankensunscreen. Purists will balk but I tint my sunscreen very lightly with liquid foundation. It's already the perfect match; already has SPF. Quick and easy and cheap.

But the days when I lopped off lipsticks and melted them together in the microwave, well...let us say those days are gone. A good part of it is that cosmetics manufacturers have been so responsive to whatever I was trying to franken in the first place, that frankening is no longer necessary.

A few quick examples...Revlon Super Lustrous lipsticks (no longer perfumed, hence no more need to melt them down with a stub of strong mint-flavored lip balm); the overall superior lasting quality of lipsticks (melting a short-lived lippy down with a piece of food-grade beeswax used to do the trick).

Hm. Aside from frankening my sunscreen, I do still mix my haircolor. I use the Feria color components at Sallys Beauty Supply; still cheaper than the kits.

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Old School Beauty Forums #2
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:56 PM (Eastern)

I remember the first time I posted on a beauty board. That was in 1998, September or October-ish.

I was in grad school and pregnant with my second child. I was taking Perl. We were to set up our own website and configure and install a Perl program on it.

lol! I had no idea how to set up a website. I'd never done it before. As is typical of a programming class, no one tells you how to do anything. You just have to figure out how to do it and get it done.

So...that was my first venture on the Web. I'm not sure exactly how I discovered LP (the original Lipstick Page site). I was searching...probably not Google, back then...for lipstick. At the time, there was no objective information about cosmetics, anywhere...I can admit I was fascinated at the possibility that there could be consumer-to-consumer information and advice along those lines.

I found the Lipstick Library and that's where I visited LP, for a long time. I didn't know they had a forum for a very long time.

Once I discovered the forum, I think I lurked for one day before posting. I found out much later on that most people don't do that. They lurk forever before posting. That thought never crossed my mind. Keep in mind that I was studying computer information systems (programming); if you don't step up and ask your question, you'll never ever know...so I just started posting, as if it were a tech support forum--because, for me, that is what it was. A beauty tech support forum.

It took quite a while for me to fit in...I knew nothing about makeup. Nothing at all. No one in my family even wore it. It was always an interest of mine...I loved girly-girl magazines such as Seventeen; I was always fascinated by makeup.

I've recently reflected a lot about the status of Internet beauty forums. Most of them got...smaller...at one point. They went from being "small big cities," to being, well, small towns, where everyone knows each other, where you are, I suppose, expected to all know each other....

But I never agreed with that. To me personally that doesn't quite make sense. I understand about unmoderated forums...those inevitably crap out; they become dominated by the pushiest element of the forum. You need people who have a stake in the board to moderate the board.

But the notion of having to fit into an established social group in order to ask beauty-related questions and get intelligent answers...no, I am definitely from the old school. I still see it as a beauty tech support forum.

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Odd ramblings...
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:39 PM (Eastern)

Mmmm...an entirely different approach from mine.

I always think of price first. i.e. I'm cheap. I will always try the cheapest option first. If it works, I stop. That's it.

If it doesn't, I go up the next level in cost. If that works, that's it. And so on.

I seldom crave the spendier levels of the same product, as long as what I have works.

Then again, it's a balance. You can spend much less time if you start at the top. Time is money. So, I've had some extra time. I prefer not to spend the money.

It's partly that...and partly that I'm not artistic, at all. I think almost purely in terms of performance. The product has to feel good going on, it has to last (I refuse to touch up, save lipstick), it has to do something for me, it has to be quick and easy to put on...or else I won't wear it.

Hence: MAC lipsticks. They're not the pinnacle of lipstick perfection, by any means, but for me they are perfect. The tube...has been engineered. Someone actually put the tube inside a lipstick holder and took it out again. You can practically do the entire operation with one hand. There is nothing extra about the tube, but for me there should be nothing extra. It's like a keyboard. Your fingers know where everything should be.

MAC was kind enough to flavor these lipsticks faintly with vanilla. Great; goes with everything.

I've used up exactly one lipstick since discovering the beauty boards--it was MAC. ("Jubilee," Lustre formula.) And I'm half-way through another--MAC Viva Glam V.

So here I am with my $14 lipstick. I own two lipsticks now, the aforementioned VGV and MAC Sophisto.

This is someone who used to own more than 60 lipsticks. I've tried various ones. For me, MAC works (the Lustre formula).

Then there are eyepencils...I gravitate toward MAC Powerpoints. Yes, the Eye Kohls have better colors, but I don't gravitate. The Powerpoints last better. Much better.

I've been wearing the same base face since forever. It's sunscreen, TerraSport SPF 45+, mixed with a little foundation--Zia liquid in "Mica." It's perfect. You get sunscreen, you get foundation... And MAC Blot pressed powder, the queen of oily-skin powders.

Blush...not a big blush person. I don't actually need blush. I have a couple on hand for when I want to look better, occasions, etc. These have to be good; again with the performance (most drugstore blushes in my experience fade too quickly so I don't bother). I have MAC Blushbaby blush and Cargo Catalina that I got in a swap with Arabella. They're both fantastic.

The most difficult place to narrow down, for me, was eyeshadow. I decided early this year to pinpoint the right colors for my green/hazel eyes...and get rid of whatever didn't wow me.

So...there is a range of colors that work for green eyes (albeit a much smaller range than for brown or hazel). You just need to veer toward the warm end of the range if your coloring is warm; toward the cool end if your coloring is cool (see earlier posts).

So...I have 8 shadows in the cheap-to-less-cheap range...4 Milani's, 1 Annabelle, 1 Sonia Kashuk duo, and 2 MAC's.

Then there's 1 UD shadow, a black|Up quad, and 3 Nars duos... Eh, I don't need shadows. I'm not buying any new ones until at least one of them I currently own bites the dust.

Hence I don't really need to look at shadows for a while. I have a few in mind, but...shrugs

The thing is, I like what I have. It's good stuff. I look forward to putting it on, when I have time to put it on. I'm never stuck without the "right" makeup, and I don't have to keep checking on my makeup. If I look like crap, there's always the blush, etc., etc.

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