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The Lipstick Page Forums Beauty & Fashion Blog: March 2007

Long before there were the Pussycat Dolls...
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:43 PM (Eastern)

There was Siouxsie Sioux:

and Kate Pierson:

I'm not sure these are exactly beauty-related, but I've been listening to them a lot lately. Amazing what you can find on Youtube.


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Price vs. value
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:36 PM (Eastern)

A couple of recent incidents have made me reflect just beauty existence has become over the years.

Just as beauty boards may be blamed for many an impulse purchase, as well as many a "haul" (this is planned, but may include extraneous items, or else be an orgy of superfluousness...whatever), so they may be blamed for my next-to-obsessive strategic approach to buying, say, a bar of soap, or a bottle of shampoo.

Gone are the days when I would go to Target or Longs Drugs and simply choose the most interesting-looking product on the shelf. I don't think I've done that in years. I always consult my own experience (aka a "repurchase") or "the boards" first. If a product has been raved about enough on the boards...and by this, I mean it's been raved about by people I've heard of, like Edina Monsoon, or Lipstick Chick, or Rupa, or M...that might mean something. I'm not gonna list the people on my own board, since you need only go there (link at the top of this blog).

One of the incidents was, I was explaining to my son about the shampoos in the the Alba Hawaiian Plumeria shampoo was the fancy, expensive one (okay it's $9 for 12 oz.) that we use occasionally, because it's a great shampoo but costs too much to use all the time. The Queen Helene Mint Julep shampoo on the other hand, is $3+something for what amounts to nearly a gallon of shampoo--like a gallon of milk. The soap is the Bisous De Provence you get at Trader Joe's for about $3 (might have gone up some lately). This is a very hard milled soap, lasts a good long time, lathers nicely, not drying, smells terrific... My facial cleanser is that board gem, Johnson & Johnson Head to Toe Baby Wash.

We've got Jason Satin Shower Body Wash in there, Nature's Gate Herbal hair conditioner...outside I have Heather Loraine jojoba butter (which I reported on the board as a UEU, meaning I'd used it up, yet there remain little dibs and dabs of's lasting a month longer than I'd thought it would), Lab Series Age Rescue eye cream (damn good eye cream, tube lasts about a year), MAC Blot pressed powder, MAC Powerpoint eyepencils, Nars the Multiple in Malibu...

These are all, generally speaking, "expensive" items, save the Queen Helene shampoo and the J & J. They all cost more than comparable items. Why I buy them, is that they last a long time.

For example, I don't think I've owned a drugstore eyepencil that lasted more than a year. Two years would be a stretch. The pencils either turned rock hard, or else went crumbly. The Powerpoints I have, haven't changed much from when I bought them more than two years ago.

You could find cheaper soaps, but how long would they last? Would they dry your skin to the point that you needed to use lotion? (After having switched to Bisous De Provence, I didn't get itchy skin this winter.)

Continuity is also key...I've used the Lab Series eye cream since...just realized...2004. They did "reformulate" once (same cream, a dollar more), but that is far better than having to look for a new eye cream.

Conclusion: it is folly to base sales of beauty products on customer impulsiveness alone, in this era of the Internet. If consumers temporarily go mad and buy more makeup in a year or two than they'd bought their entire lives up to that point, so these same consumers evolve rapidly into much pickier buyers than ever before.

Picky buyers are like good lovers in that they are capable of intense, unshakable loyalty. If you treat them right, they'll remember you. They will buy your products again and again and again.

But if you treat them badly, with price spikes, frequently discontinued or limited edition products, and declining quality, don't be surprised if they go somewhere else.

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Pre "Photoshop culture"
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:23 AM (Eastern)

Someone coined that phrase on another board, and it stuck in my mind.

I've been going avatar-nutty on the forums lately; I've gone through five as follows:

(okay you can ignore this one)

I think what I've been after, is in fact the look and feel of pre Photoshop culture beauty. Pre plastic surgery for all and sundry (yeah, I know Marilyn Monroe changed her nose, I believe she also had minor work done on her jaw)...pre "everyone goes to the same plastic surgeons and has the same look" is probably what I mean.

The sameness is getting to me. I'm starting to crave beauty with imperfection; that slight roughness and off-ness and realness, is becoming like salt and pepper added to your food.

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March 24, 2007 2:28 PM, Blogger Dain said...

I totally agree. Of course, those old photos were retouched too, though nowhere near as much as they do nowdays (now we have photoshop).

Look at this link:

March 27, 2007 2:24 PM, Blogger Colleen Shirazi said...

Yeah...I can stand some fact all of the old "portraits" were retouched (if you look at old pictures, no one has moles, freckles, pimples or shadows, and hardly a wrinkle in sight).

What freaks me out is the concept of creating another person, based on a real person. That's just disturbing.

We always go in circles...too much perfection, and it's imperfection that becomes exotic and intriguing. Funny old world eh?

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RIP Groovynub
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Friday, March 09, 2007 11:05 PM (Eastern)

I just found out that Groovynub, easily one of the most prolific product reviewers has ever known, has died at age 35.

I knew Groovynub a little bit; not well. I remember being in awe of her makeup reviewing prowess. Whenever a new collection or product came out, she was sure to try it...and usually several of the new items. Her reviews were not superficial however; they were in-depth and good.

Groovynub had a thriving Ebay store and, it turns out, a beautiful LiveJournal, replete with the best House tv show, and sundry other entertaining and thought-provoking, icons.

She had a user account on The Lipstick Page Forums and posted there twice (unfortunately all posts from that period have long been expired). We do have a small entry on The LPF New Releases Blog as follows: Revlon - Summer 2004.

Rest in peace, Stacey. You will be missed.

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Latest look-alike for MAC Strawberry Blonde lipstick
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Friday, March 02, 2007 12:05 AM (Eastern)

Thank you nocturnalgoddess of

Victoria's Secret Very Sexy Perfect Lipstick in "Love Bite"

This is second-hand info, the same as Julie Hewett "Gem Noir" and Nars "Niagara."

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