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Fashion Notes: Dain's hyperconsumerism commentary
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:52 PM (Eastern)

I quite agree with the minimalist concept, of narrowing down your wardrobe...much the way we have been narrowing down beauty routines, which was Dain's concept to begin with. I'd say I've been far less organized about the fashion aspect of my own life; I've seen it more as a matter of what you do. From what you do, you tailor your wardrobe around that.

Back when I worked in offices, I had ton loads of office clothes. It didn't bother me. You always need something to wear to the office. At one point I had enough office clothes and I stopped buying them. I still have these clothes...office attire doesn't actually change much from year to year, or even decade to decade, as long as what you have fit well in the first place.

I mean I'll go to a fashion forum and people there will spend their time dissing, say, stockings. Apparently it's the faux pas of the millennium to wear stockings (this may be a West Coast thing) but I don't care. My legs look good in stockings...stockings are conservative...I've pretty much figured out how to keep the darn things from running...et cetera. No need to change the stockings routine. A couple of years from now, women will be wearing stockings as if nothing had ever happened anyway.

Shoes...I will actually need some shoes, some time. My office shoes are on their (bad pun warning) last legs. They still look nice, but they're getting a tad worn-looking. I hate shopping for shoes (I hate shopping anyway) and I don't wear heels. I need one pair of good-looking office shoes with a low heel.

So that's it for office wear, for me...I would probably go back and see what still fits, and fill in the blanks with something along the lines of machine washable dresses. Most of my old office clothes are dryclean only; it costs a fortune and uses chemicals.

Casual clothes...I've had to wear these for the past eight years or so. I have a lot of them. It's more along the lines of khaki or olive green pants, fitted tee shirts...stuff that isn't going to go out of style. If I had bought a lot of low-rise pants with flared bottoms, I'd be screwed, but again I agree with Dain. A moderately low rise and bootcut sort of bottom always work. You can always throw in something stovepipe-y if you've got the legs for it (I don't so that's outta there).

Fitted tee shirts...sort of happy with the Mossimo ones. If Banana Republic still made the kind of tee shirts they used to, I'd buy those, but they don't. I still have one, here it is in 2004, back when I still wore jeans:

banana republic tee shirt

The shirt was already a few years old if I recall correctly, and it's only now starting to show signs of wear. I've worn and washed it a bazillion times.

I started making jewelry at one point, it's hard...there was a burst of interest in it (no doubt coinciding with a burst of layoffs), but I've found the newer suppliers tend to sell materials only at a certain level. If you want better supplies, you have to go through refineries, which means going through the Patriot Act, which is annoying. I suspect the suppliers who stay in the game will eventually sell a higher level of supplies, if only because the people who stay in the jewelry-making business will want to buy them, but that will probably be a few years from now.

That's already covered the main aspects of my life. I can't really dress up doing the mom thing, it wouldn't make sense in any sense, but I've never espoused dressing badly as a mom. That wouldn't make sense to me either.

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November 2, 2007 2:47 PM, Blogger Dain said...

I just don't want to be bothered any more. I'm so sick of the current attitude towards fashion and beauty: the halfwit celebrities, the ecstatic editorialists, the glut of useless products. No one's forcing me to take part, of course, and I'm sure it'll pass, but I am just disgusted.

 
November 3, 2007 1:36 AM, Blogger Colleen Shirazi said...

Well, some things have changed...we got rid of our Fairness Doctrine. We deregulated the number of advertising minutes per hour on tv. I think it was 13 minutes per hour before, now there is no limit.

The regulations themselves may have been relatively new, but the media have become more omnipresent. i.e., if you turn on a tv, you are inundated with advertising, 24/7. If you turn on a radio, it's less jammed with ads, but then the content is controlled by a single corporation; the content itself is a sort of subliminal ad.

The Net is still there...I hate to be pessimistic about it. I keep thinking it's inevitable the Net will go the way of all other media preceding it. But is it inevitable? You still need geeks to run things. Geeks have never been all about the money (they can't be, since a lot of what they do doesn't pay relative to the time involved).

I'm not sure if it's harder to watch this scene if you remember pre-Reagan America too well. Maybe it's easier, since you then feel that things can change, that this is all a sort of phase.

 
November 3, 2007 1:37 AM, Blogger Colleen Shirazi said...

In any case, I've always thought your minimalist philosophy was a good one.

 
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Minimalist thoughts
Posted by Colleen Shirazi, Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:12 AM (Eastern)

Thanks for the Armani quote (on the Fashion Blog). :) One of my favorite quotes is the following:

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.

Albert Einstein


That--and, admittedly, "Measure twice, cut once"--are two key sayings in my own life.

It was Dain who introduced the concept of minimalism on the old Lipstick Page. At the time, I found the cosmetic world to be a massive confusing sprawl of products. It had simply never occurred to me that there was a way of narrowing them down.

I have settled down a lot since then. It was a combination of experimentation and reading others' experiences on beauty boards. I can tell you that beauty boards are not always purely about cosmetic acquisition. A good beauty board is more about introspection; how to look good without breaking the bank.

What I'll do is take some pics of my current stash (I haven't done this in a long time; it's been in the back of my mind). It's a good visual.

Oh, and there are two items I've been lemming. :) One is MAC Vapour eyeshadow. Can't live without it. The other is this mythic lipstick (I will check out the MAC Lustres and see if they don't have something like it)...it's...a sort of off-red with a brown base, sheerish, glossy (hence the investigation into Lustres first).

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